14 years ago. Rune King Thor needed a plot device to restart time. 8 Zarathos Thwarted Other Demons As Ghost Rider The Demon Zarathos is known to comic fans as the source of Ghost Rider 's power. Superhero Battle match: Shuma Gorath versus Dormammu & Chthon. Quasar vs SW. Chthon Earth-616. Chthon and Dormammu are both > Odin. #1 Edited By Seru-kai. . login to vote. Edit: And I just realized I forgot Chthon, just like Marvel oops. We have a winner! Using the comparisons I currently have set up, Dormammu wins in a fight against Chthon. chthon is in this battle ( the guy behide scarlet-witch chaos magic as he sent his essence into her,) anyway i'm rolling towards team one. Bye bye Odin. 0. Chthon's influence in the outside world. ok i read the scans and it clearly was a stalemate and they was rocking galaxys with the energies released, then galactus starting eating his realm and mephisto told him to take surfer and go butDormammu's feats are much greater than Shuma's and Shuma-Goraths low showings are definitely lower than Dormammu's. I. After ultimately slaying their parent Sinifer, they were driven from their home dimension by the other Faltine. he is strong enough to dab on Dormammu tho, so he. I'm going with Dormammu. That led many fans to wonder, is Dormammu actually a Celestial, and if not, is he more powerful than Celestials?. When the entity is first mentioned. 13 years ago. * Dormammu:Like you. Dormammu himself have battled eternity a few times, so he is on a close enough power level. Team The Spectre vs Team Dormammu. Atum God Eater vs Fenris (From Lucifer) Dormammu. Living in a nether dimension next to the earthly plane of. Cthon is probably in par with Dormammu, but Dormammu worships Shuma Gorath. The Vishanti summoned the Tribunal and he came a runnin'. Zom Zom Earth-616. @SamanyatheThirdWorldSomali said: "This is a completely one-sided matchup. Who will win in a fight between Shuma Gorath and Dormammu & Chthon? Menu. Chthon - vs - Dormammu & Knull # 12. Shuma-Gorath is multiversal afaik, but he cant enter the universe properly, so he cant fight eternity or something like that. Surtur Doctor Strange vs. 1. Gaea made her first appearance in Doctor Strange vol 2, published in February of June 1975. #22 Edited By lord_oraculous016. Cyttorak > Shuma-Gorath > Dormammu > Chthon > Zom > Mephisto > Surtur > Pluto > Blackheart. Who will win in a fight between Dormammu and Chthon? Menu. 4 K. Chthon has often set his sights on Scarlet Witch, as her. #2 Edited By Floopay. Name: Chthon Origin: Marvel. 3. Set, is a beast now. He is simply a more powerful entity whose powers can cross over even to the Dark Dimension ruled solely by Dormammu. 233. Zarathos Zarathos Earth-616. . Who will win in a fight between Dormammu and Chthon?As Dormammu continues the conquest of New York with his Mindless Ones, Strange loses his power and seeks the help of Clea, Mordo, and Umar. When Wanda grew up and became the Scarlet. Created by soratoumiga. Superhero Battle match: Chthon versus Beyonder & Dormammu. Based on one of the old comics Dormammu has actually killed eternity , his best feat, scans were shown to me. After the Elder Gods turned on one another for power, Set took a page from Chthon's book and created a new dimension to effect an escape. Chthon already overpowered Gaea during Mystic Arcana IIRC. 0. Rules and rounds: Rules: Gorr: have all the power that he can have, killed all the gods of the. Superhero Battle match: Dormammu versus Scarlet Witch (Possessed By Chthon). Chthon has been reconnected to be one of the Old Ones, as well being an Elder God back in Carnage(2016). It's been hinted that Dormammu is going to defeat the Vishanti in their own dimension in Skottie Young's Strange Academy. I asked Steve Orlando as well, so maybe we're going to have a take from a writer himself. 5 years ago. 1 B. May be able to drain Set as this is the only way he. Mephisto is a lower level demon than Chthon. Followers. What was Dormammu’s dumbest comics moment? In 2008–09, Marvel published an infamously bad mini-series crossover called Ultimatum , set in an alternate version of the Marvel universe. H. Bottom line is that Dormammu is simply a greater threat being much more clever and overall more powerful. He is an ancient and powerful cosmic entity who demands blood sacrifice. Team Watcher vs Team Franklin Richards. (Chthon)>Skyfather(Odin) *FACEPALM* Galactus is not an abstract like eternity or death, he is a lesser. Given past events Odin being his peer is actually a bit of a downgrade. Wiki Points. Set & Chthon vs. 14 B. Nope. Register Sign in. He. Toss-up between Dormammu, Set, Chthon and Galactus. Atum is the most powerful Elder God than Set and then Chthon. The 15 Most Terrifying Alternate Dimensions In Marvel Comics. not voted @MoNsTeR @voidstone @brucewayne123 @Deathstroke_01 @wade @masterking2 who would win? You need to be logged in to read more comments. In the comics, Earth 's first demon is Set, another Elder God, to whom Chthon was a younger brother. Pyron". With enough prep time, Reed Richards could make a powerful invention to stop one or all of the Celestials. 1. Galactus wields the Power Cosmic in Marvel Comics. In the MCU, Chthon is said to be the first demon. Chthon is an Elder God and Archdemon and one of the few to resist Atum’s universal onslaught. Wiki Points. Mordru vs Cal Belloc. "-A Grave Epitaph in Santa Rosa County, Florida; I wish I could remember the man's name. Dormammu. - 4th host as they fought Odin. Probably stops at. At long last, Doctor Strange re-summons the creature who smothered him at the beginning of his tumultuous endeavor: the mythical. Wait a moment and try again. Chthon vs. Team Apocalypse vs Team Reverse Flash. Shuma, at least ever since they retconned Chthon to be one of his kin. The Living Tribunal is one of the few characters who has beaten Thanos even with the Infinity Gauntlet in play. This allows him to teleport billions of people, establish telepathic linkages between realities, and even employ it in battle. One of the most powerful is Chthon. Superhero Battle match: Dormammu & Chthon versus Abeloth (SWL) & Abeloth (Avatar) (SWL). Dormammu and Mephisto combine their realms and begin plotting a takeover of Earth, along with Umar who has an interest in helping. I would have thought Chthon is more powerful than Mephisto and Dormammu on an individual basis. Scarlet Witch at peak levels > Everyone on the list. He's easily Skyfather level. They can both wreck each other up badly. Who will win in a fight between Chthon and Dormammu (MCU)? Chthon and Cyttorak has been described as all-powerful within their realms. Who will win in a fight between Dormammu & Beyonder and Chthon?Dormammu & Chthon. 0. Born untold thousands or even millions of years ago in the dimension of the vastly powerful energy-entities called the Faltine, Dormammu and his younger twin sister Umar gathered matter to themselves, a practice anathema to their fellow Faltine. Dormammu is often referred to as Doctor Strange’s arch-nemesis and one of the most powerful entities to exist within the Marvel Universe. Chthon doesn't exactly have a ton of amazing bombastic feats to go over (he's more of a tell, don't show kind of case) but he's been clearly defined as a Elder God (one of the last surviving after. Team Doctor Strange (Classic) wins!Chthon for instance. Those "elder gods" who called him lord are not like Chthon, Set, Oshtur, and Gaea. 1 / 3. This would be like Vishnu vs Odin. chthon is in this battle ( the guy behide scarlet-witch chaos magic as he sent his essence into her,) anyway i'm rolling towards team one. The best way to explain this is that Dormammu fought with an M-body of. He first appeared in Avengers #186, by writers David Michelinie, Mark Gruenwald & Steven Grant, penciler John Byrne, inker Dan Green, colorist Roger Slifer, and letterer Jim Novak. 7 B. He's easily Skyfather level. Fantasy. Dagoth (Marvel) Dark-Crawler. He frequently finds himself in opposition to Doctor Strange, the Fantastic Four, and the Guardians of the Galaxy, serving as their formidable adversary. Prep time is of no importance. Newest Battles with Chthon. 0. Follow 662. Not is greatest enemy and not more powerful than Dormammu. Agamotto vs Demons 3. As. VS. Shuma-Gorath is perhaps the most powerful ancient demon to ever exist, with the likes of Mephisto and Dormammu claiming they are inferior to him. Superhero Battle match: Chthon versus Cyttorak. It's implied that. galactus slurping up dormammu that one time leads me to think he'll take it, magic is just energy. . Before Dormammu could complete his plans, he was confronted by Doctor Strange, who used the Time Stone. The best way to explain this is that Dormammu fought with an M-body of. Chthon vs Eru Iluvatar. #1 Edited By bigcimmerian. Carnage - Electricity. Team Dormammu vs Team Chthon. 0. The Ancient One is the latest in a long line of Sorcerers Supreme, going back thousands of years to the father of the Mystic Arts, the mighty Agamotto. The Vishanti are powerful enough to hold Chthon and Seth in their dimensions "2 entities vastly more powerful than Dormammu". Last seen being annoyed into. Dormammu is at least Skyfather level. Reviews: 0. Jan 8th. . I haven't much time to comment about it though. @czarny_samael said: " Set>Chthon>Odin>Set h Odin defeated Seth (egyptian god of death, who had power of all other egyptian gods), not Set. Mephisto only has a shot in his realm and even then Chthon could possibly pull out the win just like Galactus did in Mephisto's realm. The Superhero Database Classification number, or SHDB Class, is a number that represents. Chthon shows power that indicate he could resist OE, but not sure too. Chthon and Set have their full power, their powers are not limited because they are outside of their realms. -Takes place in Hel. Based on the Great Old Ones of Lovecraft, these Elder Gods have menaced humanity for eons. 8 Scarlet Witch Has Fallen Prey To Chthon Many Times. 1. 0. 0. I keep reading somewhere (might be from his official bio) that Dormmamu is "older and more powerful than any Elder God", and I've read elsewhere some people saying that Dormammu is stronger than them too, including Chthon. -Takes place in a neutral realm. Atum, and although he became stronger through millenia of soul stealing (and probably human worship like Satannish and Chthon), but I'd. @King Saturn: with this said i give it to the team, both have prooved to be able to take on a unbound spectre (in the arc i can not remember) and put u pa hell of a fight (with shazam being near. Rules and rounds: Rules: Gorr: have all the power that he can have, killed all the gods of the. Atum and Chthon chronology thread in Elder God Forum i recently created, they have honstly done. The Archenemy was taking on every single being in the splinter realms all at once, that included. Clea was born to Prince Orini (son of Olnar, the former ruler of the Dark Dimension) and the Faltine fugitive Umar (sister of the Dreadful Dormammu). R9 Chthon vs cyttorak. Shuma-Gorath was one of the Great Old Ones also named Many-Angled Ones. However from what I gather of Chthon he is kinda like the 'boss' of the elder gods for example he created the Darkholde and ias such is responsible for the creation of vampire, werewolves and other monsters. 1 / 50% Shuma Gorath Shuma Gorath Earth-616. 586. Highest Weighted Strength: Dormammu. Trigon Chthon. Dormammu has been described as one of the universe’s biggest threats by some. Team Abraxas vs Team Darkseid. Beings of pure magical energy, the Faltine exist in their own dimension. -Takes place in a neutral realm. There is more than one way to judge who will win in a fight between Dormammu and Chthon. r/shield • Dar-Benn's throne (from the upcoming The Marvels), appears to have the same Kree markings that Coulson was writing, and looks like the ObeliskChthon, Dormammu hasn't been at an Eternity-wrecking level for a long time. Shuma Gorath vs Dormammu & Chthon. 0. 1 Less Powerful: Odin. 0 / 0% Vector Yu-Gi-Oh! 108 K. The greatest mystical threat in the Marvel Universe, he often comes to. That is more impressive that the dimension of Chthon. Shuma-Gorath is actually a Marvel character inspired by Lovecraft's work, and he's way above the Celestials. #1 Edited By bigcimmerian. Follow 6453. [citation needed] Varnae turned some members into vampires. He is responsible for the creation of. Team White Phoenix of the Crown vs Team Gorr The God Butcher. . A literal embodiment of evil, he is made up of pure magical energy. Team Trigon Team Dormammu. 15 By the Dread Dormammu! One of Doctor Strange's earliest invocations also has the honor of being one of the few invocations that Strange pretty much stopped using all together. Related: Galactus vs Dormammu: Who'd Win in Marvel Comics. Shuma Gorath Shuma Gorath Earth-616. True form chaos king* Rune king thor* vs. 3 / 50% Chthon Earth-616. login to vote. Followers. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Implication of that being she will be even more powerful than Dormammu. Cyttorak banned some PF5 from his realm. To defeat him, The Phoenix Force can merely warp the fabric of reality within the Dark Dimension, making Dormammu spend, say, an eternity trapped within a living hell. 4 years ago. -Win by any means. Demogorge (The God Eater). Sinifer was a member of the Faltine race. Voting feed. Dormammu is at least Skyfather level. unable to contain her powers for much longer and heal her broken mind, Charles Xavier gathered the Avengers and the X-Men to decide the fate of the Scarlet Witch. 1 B. For instance, when he triumphs over the combined powers of Thanos and the Silver Surfer. So even if Dormammu is at Odin's mercy, Dormammu could invoke the Power of Chthon or Shuma-Goarth, Cyttorak, Dweller in Darkness, etc. Galactus vs Dormammu, Mephisto & Thanos This topic is locked from further discussion. Chthon – The World’s First Dark Sorcerer. The Superhero Database Classification number, or SHDB Class, is a number that. After all, the MCU had a hard enough time getting audiences to wrap their heads around characters like Dormammu and Thanos, much less a transdimensional all-powerful being. Dormammu is the sworn enemy of the Sorcerer Supreme, time and time again giving the strongest magic-users of the Marvel Universe a run for their money. Two rounds: One: In the Dark Dimension at a point when Dormammu is the ruler. What are some of his feats? - Quora. Chaos King, Chthon, Shuma-Gorath vs Tiamut, Scathan, TR. No way that Dormammu is more powerful than Chthon or Zom. Discussion; Bug Reporting; Delete/Combine PagesAccording to legend, Agamotto emerged from the tear of Oshtur, benevolent Elder Goddess of Earth, as she was moved by the unyielding joy of a blind boy, circa 25,000 BC, though it is now known that Agamotto was born. Speed. His position as the absolute monarch of the Dark Dimension also gives him further increased mystical power. Nightmare has had some really low showings. #3 Edited By "Colossus". 0. 1 / 50% Shuma Gorath Shuma Gorath Earth-616. Durability. #1 Edited By Seru-kai. a magical book written by the elder god Chthon, for two years plus being the prophesized Scarlet Witch mentioned by the Darkhold gave her further power-ups. Gravity there is weaker and the fabric of space is more porous, with gravity decreasing rapidly with distance. Great logic. Chthon isn't the only cosmic threat in the MCU, of course, and we already know one villain who is long overdue for his return: Dormammu, ruler of the Dark Dimension. It's close, though. takenstew22. #1 Edited By bigcimmerian. Searching. Cyttorak is a bit up in the air, its never explained how powerful he truly is. Power. Superhero Battle match: Dormammu versus Quicksilver (Possessed By Chthon). While Dormammu is primarily Doctor Strange’s enemy, Scarlet Witch helped the Sorcerer Supreme battle the cosmic entity more than once, so I had to include it on the list. The only thing Nightmare did was trap Eternity when he slept where as Dormammu fought him and. KMC Forums > Comic Book Forums > Comic Book 'Versus' Forum >. CryptoGalactus would win in a fight against Dormammu. 2 Eternity vs Dormammu. Tier. Lucifer Morningstar vs Team Phantom Stranger. Zom vs Shuma Gorath vs Chthon vs Set. Set & Chthon vs. Dormammu on the other hand DOES have the power to directly force fate against Eternity. Register Sign in. - Elder gods include Gaea, Chthon, Set, Oshtur and Atum Demogorge. eternitey considers dormamu nothing to him. The ancient being Chthon serves as the source. Compare the Characters’ Abilities and Weaknesses. However, he tricks Magik. 0. In. However from what I gather of Chthon he is kinda like the 'boss' of the elder gods for example he created the Darkholde and ias such is responsible for the creation of vampire, werewolves and other monsters. 3 Ultron. I think there was a scan with Strange saying Shuma-Gorath is for sure far greater in power than Dormammu. 0. Written appropriately, creepy monsters could work in the MCU. Chthon is the supreme-most being of the dark arts and even the most powerful supernatural beings such as Dormammu and Mephisto invoke and use his spells. And. Once believed to have been mutant children of Magneto, the twins are in truth orphans enhanced by the High Evolutionary at Mount Wundagore in Transia. She has the darkhold, dormy doesn't. _____ “Where the longleaf pines are whispering to him who loved them so. Dormammu was one of the first extradimensional threats that Doctor Strange faced. stalemates Elaine? IDK. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Even if Ultron’s attack power is lower than Dormammu he still has the time stone which Dormammu has been shown to be weak to. 0. When it comes to more traditional magic users, one of the most notorious — and most terrifyingly powerful — mages out there is the fan-favorite villain Randall Flagg, who will be making his big screen debut next year in The Dark Tower, where he will be played by Matthew McConaughey. Based on the Great Old Ones of Lovecraft, these Elder Gods have menaced humanity for eons. Wright (Umineko Verse) Team Chthon vs Team White Phoenix of the Crown. Votes per week. Vishanti vs Mikaboshi. Zom is an incredibly powerful monster from Marvel comics and an enemy of Doctor Strange, Zom is powerful enough to dwarf Doctor Strange and beings such as Umar or Dormammu with ease - however, he is nowhere near as powerful as the Living Tribunal. The Vishanti summoned the Tribunal and he came a runnin'. Newcomers to the Dark Tower mythos. Team 1. | Class: 0. Hahahahaha… *Dormammu starts to absorb all of Anos’ energy and dark magic. I would have thought Chthon is more powerful than Mephisto and Dormammu on an individual basis. Trigon Doctor Hate. Voted neutral. Bye bye Uatu MO vs Dormammu. D. 6 years ago. 1 B. Created by TheCrazyWarrior2021. Dormammu Dormammu Earth-616. Shuma and Chthon reside in a Neither Realm and Dormammu resides in a Splinter Realm. In fact Chthon shit his pants from Demogorge. Chthon vs Dormammu. Final Verdict: Dormammu Wins. Dark Dimension does not limit Galactus’ powers, but any other dimension. Follow 44716. joins forces with the Howling Commandos! The Dread Dormammu is the ruler of the Dark Dimension, a parallel universe of endless torment and hunger. 5 years ago. Cyttorak provides on going infinite power at a constant and does not loss power or gain power. Well. Chthon is an Elder God and Archdemon that resides in a nether dimension adjacent to the earthly plane. The bizarre story gave rise to some of the most unique villains in Marvel Comics such as Nightmare, Mephisto, Chthon,. *Cyttorak was first mentioned in Strange Tales #124 ("The Lady from Nowhere", Sept. Zetsu-San. -Win by any means. I would say it's a tie between Zom and Shuma Gorath they are both bada$$. Originally posted by the Darkone. DjMasta. Team Chthon vs Team White Phoenix of the Crown. Shuma Gorath. It has thus far been difficult to come up with a system that works well across all characters… Final Verdict: Dormammu Wins. They exist in a realm of their own, a very old and very dense universe that is also known as the Faltine. 13 years ago. Set would get slaughter he fought either Zom or Shuma Gorath point blank. Chthon is a demon-like entity that is the source of Chaos Magic. Chthon is at best close to Dormammu's level, but what makes Dormammu more dangerous is that Dormammu has the ability to use conjuring stackable power. Originally posted by Beyonder Chthon>Vampire>Wolverine>Phoenix Another What If also showed Set owning Phoenix Elder Gods > Phoenix Also heard about a Guardians of the Galaxy book where Dormammu stomps Phoenix and the Socceror Supreme of that era teamed up Dr. There are mentions of Chthon’s power and influence in ancient texts sin the Marvel Comic Book Universe. Chthon and Set are Elder gods, which would put them a class ahead of the current gods and skyfathers on the DC team. 0. Set and Dormammu fight is in a neutral realm, everyone is at full power Team 2 gets 2 hours of prep Team 1 gets 1 hour and 30The Dark Dimension, also known as Subwhere, is a Universe that contains more spatial coordinates than Earth's universe, and eventually incorporated an endless number of pocket dimensions. And still be more powerful. I would have thought Chthon is more powerful than Mephisto and Dormammu on an individual basis. An extra-dimensional monster created by unknown parties. Battle takes place in a merged dimension of the Crimson Cosmos and the dimension Chthon resides in, so both can use as much of their potential power. You need to be logged in to read more comments. Capcom 3: Fate of Two Worlds on the PlayStation 3, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Dormammu Vs. - Random encounter, all are full powered. Reviews: 0. Voting feed. After Doom's death at the hands of Kull, they used the Darkhold to create the first vampire, Varnae. Trivia. 0. @Grand Ninja said: "Shuma does. Who will win in a fight between Dormammu and Scarlet Witch (Possessed By Chthon)?That was Thanos without the Infinity Stones vs Wanda. login to vote. Chthon was one of the Elder Gods of Earth and the planet’s first Black magician. It's not just Dormammu calling himself one, Urthona and others also did. According to legend, Agamotto emerged from the tear of Oshtur, benevolent Elder Goddess of Earth, as she was moved by the unyielding joy of a blind boy, circa 25,000 BC, though it is now known that Agamotto was born before the Elder Gods were expelled from Earth, and was already an adult and the Sorcerer Supreme during the Stone Age, in 1,000,000 BC. He is the brother of supervilainess Umar and the uncle of superheroine Clea who rules over the Dark Dimension. only on this site and the "popular" belief is worse than ComicVine or DanCo's comment section*). . Galactus has issues with magic users, he couldn’t even beat Agamotto so Trigon/Dormammu at full power should dismantle the Galactus. Zom claims to have been created to destroy, but the methods of his creation are unknown. eternitey considers dormamu nothing to him. Trigon Zatanna (full potential)* vs. #7. Dormammu Dormammu Earth-616. @Grand Ninja said: "Shuma does. Celestials vs Elder Gods. L. Who will win in a fight between Chthon and Beyonder & Dormammu?Additionally, a recent teaser trailer for Doctor Strange 2 appears to be introducing a new character: Chthon. Time Trapper vs Mordru. Originally written on flesh before being transcribed to stone and later a collection of parchments often referred to as the Chthon Scrolls. Heck, even his avatar Juggernaut defeats Gorath. a being of immense. XiiX. Dormammu locks horns with Eternity and Odin. 0. L. 1 Chthon Is The Scarlet Witch's Creator. Register Sign in. Daring to challenge even Eternity itself,. Shuma-Gorath is featless and Chthon totally isn't. Dormammu vs Quicksilver (Possessed By Chthon) Created by Zoom. Dormammu. Searching. I would have thought Chthon is more powerful than Mephisto and Dormammu on an individual basis. Honestly, I think Chthon and Dormammu are quite close to each other these days. Power. Strange (the New Ancient One) to beat Dormammu. Cyttorak (without his realm) - Galactus (highly fed) (40 - 50%) can beat cyttorak. Searching. Chthon's also supposed to be the Lord of Chaos, but it doesn't seem like these 3 interact in any sort of meaningful way.